Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

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Re: Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

Postby melodycullen » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:35 am

Of course Jacob isn't noble...even when he ran away from his feelings he stayed wolf so he wouldn't have to hurt as a human. He tried to distract himself. He made many many many selfish moves in the series, but I don't think he was wrong. Humans are pretty much all self-serving...with the exception of your Mother Theresa types...we make decisions that benefit us as often as possible.
Thats all Jacob did. He loved Bella...knew she was going to pick another guy and wanted to give himself as best of a shot as he could. So, yeah, he manipulated her and kissed her. She apparently liked it...He obviously LOVED it. Edward, caught in his own words, had to accept it. She did ask Jacob to kiss her, so no broken jaws.

The whole tent scene is my favorite section of the entire series. I just love how its written. If you're familiar with Biblical history at all, think about King Solomon and the two women who claimed a baby belonged to them. Solomon ordered that the baby be cut in half then both women could have an equal share of the baby. The one who wasn't the baby's mother said...do it...pretty much "if i can't have the baby, no one can". The real mom said, give it to the other woman...she loved the baby enough to see it live with another family rather than let it die.

Edward...is like the real mother...he'd rather see Bella with Jacob than unhappy. Jacob is like the fake mom...if she's not his, she's nobody's. In reality, Jacob obviously came around because he was there at the end of the books...but in that tent moment...he was thinking out of pure selfishness.

Ok...i talk way too much...sorry about that, but I'll defend the Edward/Bella/Jacob triangle any day. Without it the books would be far less than they are.
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Re: Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

Postby WENDELINE » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:40 am

I think Bella did what she did because she was afraid of losing him and she decided to give him what he so desperately wanted to give him a reason to come back alive.
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Re: Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

Postby HeyMoon » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:12 pm

Jake tricked her but Bella was the stupid one for actually falling for it.
I think it was fine because the way i look at it, even though at the time she was denying she was in love with Jake too, she knew that she had to figure it all out. she WANTED him to kiss her, otherwise she wouldn't have asked. i mean, would you really want to marry a guy with doubts in your head? she had to be SURE she was in love with Jake too, and then figure out what was best for her.
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Re: Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

Postby so saga obsessed » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:35 pm

Shakespeare wrote:I think Jacob is a manipulative jerk and Bella can never resist manipulative jerks. So I blame Jacob, not Bella, for that one.



Yeah I do think it was very manipulative of him and personally I mean well we all knew that even if she didn't kiss him he wasn't going to really set himself up to get killed on purpose..I mean c'mon he's not edward..he just knew how she felt about people dying and getting hurt for her and he used it against her just so he could kiss her..ughhh jakey lol
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Re: Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

Postby nix » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:18 pm

Jacob was manipulative and selfish. I only like him when they are just friends, but when Bella starts thinking about how she is in love with him or when they kiss.. X(
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Re: Was is okay of Bella to ask Jake..

Postby FrstTwilightPrinCess » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:50 pm

I think it was okay because like, she didn't know if she would ever see him again ya know? And like she wanted to be sure about how she felt so I could understand that but still like....dude you were engaged sweetheart like thats kinda messed up.
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